Als hoog-begaafd en hoog-sensitief mens kan je dezer dagen knap gek worden. Vooral als je tijdens de intelligente lockdown teveel op twitter zit. You are fake news! Nieuwsgierig geworden door ’n tweet op TPO zond ik mijn eigen dwaallichtje het universum in: over een interview van 26 minuten met ene Judy Mikovits (Phd) over Corruptie & Virus. De titel van het interview – dat mij verontrustte! – loog er niet om: “PlanDemic: a film about the global plan to take control of our lives, liberty, health & freedom.” (pLandemic: got it?). Na het bekijkluisteren bleef één vraag hangen: wat wordt hier in godsnaam toch allemaal voor heftigs beweerd? En omdat ik het deze keer echt wilde weten – want virusen en corona en corruptie en fake news – besloot ik het hele interview uit te schrijven. Gaat u mee op avontuur? Als u uitgelezen bent of eventueel zelf het interview op BitChute hebt ondergaan, zal ik u vertellen wat ik ervan vind. Maar u mag natuurlijk ook meteen door-scrollen naar mijn wijze en bezonken oordeel. Eh . . . . op BitChute? Ja, want op YouTube is het inmiddels weg gecensureerd. Oh ja: en Mikovits heeft een boek gescheven dat pas uit is:

UPDATE 11 MEI 2020: Het internationaal toonaangevende wetenschaps-magazine Science heeft op 8 mei (dus 1 dag nadat mijn stuk on -line kwam) een fact-checking artikel gepubliceerd over de beweringen van Mikovits en beantwoordt de vraag gesteld in de titel van mijn opstel met: charlatan!


Interviewer Mikki Willis opent met een verklaring:

Doctor Judy Mikovits has been called one of the most accomplished scientists of her generation. Her 1999 doctoral thesis revolutionized the treatment of HIV. At the height of her career doctor Mikovits published a blockbuster-article in the Journal of Science. The article sent shockwaves through the scientific community, as it revealed that the common use of animal-and- human-fetal-tissue were unleashing  devastating plagues of chronic diseases. For exposing their deadly secrets, the minions of Big Pharma waged war on doctor Mikovits, destroying her good name, career and personal life. Now, as the fate of nations hangs in the balance, doctor Mikovits is naming names of those behind the Plague of Corruption that places all of human life in danger.”

Interviewer Mikki Willis: “So you made a discovery that conflicted with the agreed upon narrative.”

Mikovits: “Correct.”

Willis: “For that they did everything in their power to destroy your life.”

Mikovits: “Correct.”

Willis: “You were arrested and put under a gag order [= spreekverbod] .”

Mikovits.: “For five years. If I went on social media, if I said anything at all they would ‘find new evidence’ and put me back in jail. And it was one of the few times I cried because I knew there was no evidence the first time and when you can unleash that kind of force to force someone with a perfect credit score into bankruptcy. So I could not bring my 97 witnesses which included the head Tony Fauci, Ian Lipkin, you know, the heads of the public health HHS [Health and Human Services] who would have had to testify that we did absolutely nothing wrong.”

Willis: “And so what did they charge you with?”

Mokovits: “Nothing.”

Willis: “But you were in jail.”

Mikovits (while she speaks we see images plusminus like the raid on the subterfuge of Bin Laden):  “I was held in jail with no charges. I was called a fugitive from justice. No warrant. They literally dragged me out of the house. Neighbours looking on: what’s going on here? They searched my house without a warrant. They literally terrorized my husband for five days. They said: ‘If you don’t find the note-books, if you don’t find the material, which was not in my possession, but planted in my house . . . “

Willis: “As if you took intellectual property from the laboratory.”

Mikovits: “Yes, it was intended to appear as if I took confidential material, names and intellectual property, from the laboratory. And I could prove without a shadow of a doubt that the heads of our entire HHS colluded and destroyed my reputation and the Department of Justice and the FBI sat on it and kept that case under their seal, which means you cannot say there is a case or you are held in contempt of court. You cannot get even a lawyer to defend you. So every single due process or right was taken away from me and to this day remains the same. I have no constitutional freedoms or rights.”

Willis: “Yet you sit here. I think a lot of people would have just taken a retirement out early, lay it low, but you have decided to come forward when your gag-order had been released to write a book, called “Plague of Corruption: Restoring Faith in the Promise of Scienceand you are naming names.”

Mikovits: “Absolutely.”

Willis: “Apparantly their attempt to silence you has failed. And I have to ask: how do you sit here with the confidence to call out these great forces and not fear for your life as you leave this building?”

Mikovits: “Because if we don’t stop this now, we cannot only forget our republic and our freedom, we can forget humanity because we will be killed by this agenda.”

Willis: “So Antony Fauci, the man who is heading the pandemic task force, was involved in a cover up?”

Mikovits: “He directed the cover up. And in fact everybody else was paid off and paid off big time: millions of dollars in funding from Tony Fauci’s organization NIAID (National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases). These investigators, that committed the fraud, continue  to this day to be paid big time by NIAID

Wills: “How do we know that what he is saying is what we need to be learning?”

Mikovits: “What he is saying is absolute propaganda. And the same kind of propaganda he has perpetrated to kill millions since 1948.”

(Nu zien we een clip met een jonge Fauci die voor een batterij microfoons het volgende verklaart: ”We know from this study quite clearly that there wil be a delay in progression significantly greater than for individuals who do not take the drug.”)

Mikovits: “It started really when I was 25 years old. I was part of the team that isolated HIV from the saliva and blood of the patients from France where Luc Montaignier had originally isolated the virus.  This was a confirmatory study where Tony Fauci and Robert Gallo were working together than to spin the story in a different way. At that time doctor Ruscetti was out of town. And Tony Fauci says, you know, we understand that you have a paper in press and we want a copy of it. And I said yes there is a paper in press and it’s confidential.  And no, I will not give you a copy of it. He started screaming at me. Then he said: ‘Give us the paper right now or you will  be fired for insubordination’.  And I said: ‘I am sure that when doctor Ruscetti gets back you can have the conversation. And so Frank [Ruscetti] comes back, several weeks later and is really bullied into giving Fauci the paper. Fauci holds up the publication of the paper for several months while Robert Gallo writes his own paper and takes all the credit. And of course patents are involved. This delay of the confirmation literally  led to spread the virus around, you know, killing millions. Maybe no one expressed the anguish of AIDS better than a New York writer Larry Kramer.

(Beelden van protest in verband met AIDS-HIV met voice over die zegt: “But he [Kramer] was even more angry at the federal government and the pharmaceutical industry. One person who felt Kramers fury was NIAID-doctor Antony Fauci.”)

Mikovits: “He [Kramer] called Tony Fauci the Bernie Madoff of science. It’s still been crushing to me to think that I didn’t know my work in 1999 would be something that had been avoided from 1982 and 1983 when the virus was isolated. The virus didn’t have to wait untill 1984 to be confirmed. Think of how many people on the entire continent of Africa, you know lost a generation, as that virus was spread through because of the arrogance of a group of people and it includes Robert Redfield who is now the head of CDC (Center for Disease Control), right along with Tony Fauci. They were working to take credit and make money and they had the patents on it and tailored them to [inaudible]-therapy which was absolutely the wrong therapy. And had that not happened, millions would not have died from HIV.

Wills: “How can a man . . . how can any person who is giving a global advise for health, own a patent in the solution in the vaccine?  Is there not a conflict of interest, or shouldn’t there be?

Mikovits: “It ‘s a conflict of interest. And in fact this is one of the things that I have been saying and would like to say to president Trump: repeal the Bayh–Dole Act. That act gave government-workers the right to patent their discoveries, to claim intellectual property for discoveries that the tax-payer paid for. Ever since that happened in the early eighties it destroyed science. And this allowed the development of  those complexes-of-interest. And this is the crime behind letting somebody like Bill Gates with billions of dollars – nobody elected him, he has no medical background, he has no expertise, but we let people like that have a voice in this  country while we destroy the life of millions of people.”

(We zien Bill Gates zeggen: “Normalcy only returns when we’ve largely vaccinated the entire global population.”)

Willis: “If we activate mandatory vaccines globally, I imagine these people that own the vaccines stand to make hundreds of millions of dollars.”

Mikovits: “And they will kill millions. As they already have with their vaccines. There is no vaccine currently on the schedule for any RNA-virus that works.

Willis: “So I have to ask: are you anti-vaccine?”

Mikovits: “Oh, absolutely not! Vaccine is immune-therapy. Just like [incomprehensible/inaudible]  is immune-therapy. So I’m not anti-vaccine. My job used to be to develop immune-therapies. That’s what vaccines are.”

Willis: “People believe this virus was created in a laboratory.”

Mikovits: “I would not use the word ‘created’, but you cannot say ‘naturally occurring’ if it was by way of the laboratory (sic). So it’s very clear this virus was manipulated, this family of viruses was manipulated and studied in a laboratory where the animals were taken into the lab and this is what was released, wether deliberate or not. That cannot be naturally occurring. Somebody didn’t go to a market, get a bat, the virus did not jump directly to him, that’s not how  it works. That’s accelerated viral evolution.  If it was a natural occurrence it would take up to 800 years to occur. This occurred from SARS-1 within a decade. That’s not naturally occurring.“

Willis: “You have any idea where this occurred?”

Mikovits: “Oh yeah! I’m sure it occurred between the North-Carolina-laboratories Fort Detrick US Army institute of research and the Wuhan-laboratory.”

(Nieuws –item verklaart dat Tony Fauci heeft samengewerkt met het Wuhan-lab.)

Mikovits: “In 1991 I was working in Fort Detrick and my job was to teach Ebola, how to infect humans without killing them. Ebola could not infect human cells until we took it into the laboratories and taught them.”

Willis:  “It’s hard to ignore the death-tolls. People have been dying, they are dying from this and in quite alarming numbers. How do you reconcile that?”

Mikovits: “It’s pretty easy for me when you see what he government has done and that is . . . .  . . they took, quoting Doctor Birx, ‘a very liberal approach to mortality’. If my husband were to die , who has COPD, his lungs have fibrosis, his lungs would look exactly like somebody wth COVID-19 theoretically, but he has no evidence of infection. So if you are not testing and you don’t have evidence of infection and you walked in there today you would call it COVID-19. And we hear this from the doctors and nurses who are upset.”

Willis: “We have seen so many doctors online that have made their own webcam-video’s just perplexed by the protocols that have been given them.”

(Komt een webcam-doctor in beeld die zeg dat hij het gevoel heeft dat de regering probeert om zoveel mogelijk doden toe te schrijven aan het virus. En een vent in pak met stropdas zegt dat het de bedoeling is om de bevolking zoveel mogelijk angst aan te jagen zodat de mensen makkeljker gemanipuleerd kunnen worden. Veel van die beelden zijn blurrig en de herkomst is ook vaag. Voorts:Trump schijnt niet erg bezig met de bevolking angst aan te jagen. Integendeel zou ik zeggen.)

Mikovits: “You don’t die with an infection. You die from an infection.”

Willis: “I talked with doctors who have admitted that they have been [inaudible] to list patients that are sick of have died with COVID-19.”

Mikovits: “Thirteen-thousand dollars from Medicare if you call it COVID-19.”

(Clip met nieuws-item: “if that COVID-19-patient goes on a ventilator you get 39.000 dollars, three times as much”.)

Mikovits: “ . . . . and you will have killed them with the ventilator because you gave them the wrong treatment . . . “

(Jonge dokter verschijnt die ons vertelt dat, tenzij je oud en/of kwetsbaar bent, je geen masker moet dragen en je niet thuis moet isoleren, want dat we weerstand moeten opbouwen. Tweede jonge dokter: “All these things that just don’t make sense. All the patients that I see in front of me, the lungs that I am trying to improve, have led me to believe that we are operating under a medical paradigm that is untrue. And I fear that this misguided treatment will lead to a tremendous amount of harm to a great number of people in a very short time.

Willis: ”My next question is about Italy. I want to know why Italy was hit so hard.”

Mikovits: “Italy has a very old population. They are very sick with inflammatory disorders. They got, at the beginning of 2019, an untested new form of influenza-vaccine that had four different strains of influenza including the highly pathogenic H1-N1. That vaccine was grown in a dogs-cell-line. Dogs have lots of corona-vireses. And that’s why they’re not testing there. You could just say: oh it was that.”

(Mijn opmerking: heeft Mikovits niet gehoord van de grote Wuhan–gemeenschap die leefde in Italië in precies de regio die het hardste werd getroffen, namelijk Lomdardije).

(Plotseling verschijnt er een clip met een dokter die schreeuwt: “We know that hydroxie-chloroquine and zinc are working great for patients. And then Fauci comes out and says: ‘No! there is no double blind control-study! Doctor Fauci: is there going to be a double-blind study of your vaccine?’

Dan een clip die zegt: “In a survey, polling nearly 2300 doctors in some 30 countries, hydroxy-chloroquine was ranked as the most effective medication to treat the virus.”

Mikovits:  “The AMA (American Medical Association) was saying that doctors would loose their license if they use hydroxy-chloroquine, an anti-malaria-drug that has been on the list of essential medicine worldwide for 70 years. Doctor Fauci calls that ‘anecdotal data’. It’s not story-telling if we have thousands of pages of data saying it’s effective against these families of viruses: 50 cents a dose we could protect a thousand people for seven days, two doses a day, with one 600-dollar-file. And that hasn’t been done. This is essential medicine and they keep it from the people. Not only now, but back in autism (sic), with our discovery, there was an anti-viral drug, hundred year old drug called Syramin on the WHO-list of essential medicine. It literally gave kids with autism a voice. A life. What did Monsanto do? They took it away from everybody. You could not get it to save your life. Now, we tried! Believe me. Every way we could. So if you take away a medicine, not just the WHO, also the FDO the CDC and Tony Fauci closed everything. Just end it all and we’ve got a healthy world again! And we’ve got tons of money, Because, take all that money that they are making on their patents until  we can give it to the victims of this plague of corruption.”

Willis: “Is it safe to say that anything that cannot be patented has been shut down intentionally, because there I no ways to profit from it? All these natural remedies that we have had for . . . . ever?”

Mikovits: “Absolutely that is fair to say. And it’s exactly what is going on in COVID-19. The game is to prevent the therapies till everyone is infected and push the vaccines, knowing that the flu-vaccines, increase the odds by 36% of getting COVID-19.”

Willis: “Where does [sic] that data come from?”

(Ik begin mezelf steeds wederkeriger te beseffen dat het virus dat rondwaart in de mediaes om Latijnse meervouden als enkelvouden te behandelen onuitroeibaar is.)

Mikovits: “A publication last year with the military who had been vaccinated with influenza were more susceptible tot corona-viruses. Corona-viruses are in every animal. If you ever had a flu-vaccine, you were injected with corona-viruses and then to put on a mask . . . .

(Plotseling verschijnt er een clip met een dokter: “This does not make any sense. We wear masks in an acute setting to protect us. We are [now] not wearing masks. Why is that? Because we understand micro-biology, we understand immunology and we want strong immune systems. Our immune-system is used to touching.” Etcetera)

Mikovits: “Wearing the mask literally activates your own virus. You’re getting sick from your own re-activated corona-virus-expression. And as it happens to be SARS-COVID-2 and you have a big problem (?) (sic).

Willis: “You are not the first virologist who has told me that what we are doing is the exact opposite of what we should be doing to contain and to create immunity from this virus.”

Mikovits: “Why would you close the beach. You got sequences in the soil and in the sand.You’ve got healing microbes in the ocean in the salt water. That’s insanity.”

Willis: “These institutions that are polluting our environment and our bodies. There was a time when they had actually to fight their own battles. But they have done such a great job at manipulating the masses, shutting down other people, citizens. And the big tech-platforms follow suit and they shut everything down. There is no dissenting voices allowed anymore in this free country, which I thought is something that I would never live to see.”

Mikovits: “Nor would I. Except what I have experienced in 2011. [Images that are meant to illustrate the brainwashing by the MSM] It’s beyond comprehension that our society can be so fooled that these types of propaganda continue to drive us to where we just hate each other. Hopefully, this is the wake up call for all America to realize this makes no sense and we win because we will take down the whole program with information like this. For me it’s the great news that the doctors are waking up and saying ‘wait a minute’ . . . .”

(Plotseling verschijnt een clip met een dokter die schreeuwt: “You doctors who are watching this! And I see a lot of you right here! Why are you not getting loud? I’m here to defend you, my freedoms, my family’s freedoms, my patients right to choose what to do with their lives. I’m just blown away why there are not more doctors like me talking all over the place. You should be banding together right now. You need to wake up, because your liberties are getting taken away from you. All because of fake news that is out there. This is wrong. People should be going to jail for this stuff.”)

Mikovits: “So it is not the scientists who are in any way dishonest. They are listening to people who for more than 40 years have controlled who gets funded and what gets published. And I’m sorry to say, many people [scientists] will take the money and the fame and support things that absolutely are not true.”

Willis: “What would you say to the medical professionalists who are just beginning to get a glimpse of the depth to which they have been misled and steered away from their oath to do no harm?”

Mikovits: “I say: forgive yourself. It’s the hardest thing to realize for all of us is that with the best intention we studied and thought that what we learned was the truth. We had no idea that the data that we were being told as true was nót true. What is being taught now in our schools is a very different science. You don’t get funded if you don’t speak the party line. You don’t get published. The hardest thing for me to take, is understanding that scientific journals would twist the discovery that should have healed all. So what we did, pretty much since I got out of jail, we started an education-company to wake up doctors. And it is very difficult, but every doctor who realizes they have been part of the problem makes now a turn around to march to a better society and to restore faith in the promise of medicine. That’s all we can do.”


Even voor ik het vergeet en het als los eindje aan het slot moet behandelen: waarom horen we niks over het terugtrekken in 2011 door het gerenommeerde wetenschaps-magazine Science van een artikel van Mikovits uit 2009? Het was een artikel dat claimde dat de oorzaak van het chronische vermoeidheids-syndroom een virus was, bekend onder code XMRV. Dat bleek achteraf gewoon niet te kloppen.

Het voornaamste dat ik uit dit interview haal, is het volgende. Mikovits, een twintiger destijds, wilde in 1982 niet ingaan op de eis van Tony Fauci en Robert Gallo om hen een te publiceren rapport ter hand te stellen dat, als ik het goed begrijp, door haar geschreven was en dat het geheim van het geneesmiddel tegen HIV-AIDS bevatte. Blijkbaar werkten ze alle drie in hetzelfde onderzoekscentrum. Als ik het verder goed begrijp, hebben Fauci en Gallo het hoofd van het onderzoeks-centrum, Frank Ruscetti, zodanig onder druk gezet dat zij het rapport toch kregen. En hebben Fauci en Gallo vervolgens publicatie van het rapport van Mikovits maandenlang  tegen gehouden. Gallo, zo begrijp ik verder, heeft het rapport herschreven, het sleutel-element dat de genezing van HIV mogelijk maakte, eruit gehaald en het rapport als zijn eigen prestatie gepresenteerd. Waarbij de patenten op het geneesmiddel aan Gallo en Fauci toevielen.

Dat is natuurlijk allemaal niet fraai. Maar nog minder fraai, zeg nou zelf, zijn miljoenen AIDS-doden. Want dat is wat Mikovits claimt dat het gevolg is geweest van het uitstel van de publicatie van het rapport tot 1984.

En nou kwam ik er gisteren, op de sterfdag van Pim Fortuyn, achter dat mevrouw Mikovits inmiddels nóg een interview heeft gegeven aan een of andere agressieve sensatie-gladjanus. Opnieuw op BitChute want op YouTube is ze uiteraard niet meer welkom. Dat duurt bijna 2 uur en ik heb het zeven minuten volgehouden. Belangrijke opmerking van agressieve sensatie-gladjanus, die ik ergens scrollend door het interview oppikte: de (uiteindelijke) uitgever van het nieuwe boek is is niet “Skyhorse Publishing” maar Simon and Schuster. En als grote uitgever hebben ze daar advocaten in dienst om na te gaan of Mikovits met de beschuldigingen die ze doet richting Fauci cum suis in de gerechtelijke problemen kan raken. Dus als ze die beschuldigingen van fraude die miljoenen AIDS-doden kostte in het boek herhaalt, heeft ze blijkbaar een sterke zaak.

Nu wil het toeval dat Tony Fauci de Jaap van Dissel van Trump was. Ik heb het niet helemaal gevolgd en ik weet niet de laatste stand van zaken, maar in elk geval is Trump ontevreden over Fauci en heeft hij hem op een zijspoor gezet. Maar Mikovits valt toch best nog wel met haar neus in de publicitaire boter nu ze haar boodschap van vaccinatie-en-virus-corruptie-ten-koste-van-miljoenen-mensenlevens kan koppelen aan Fauci.

En wat is die boodschap in de rest van dit 26-minuten-interview nou eigenlijk? Dus behalve dat Fauci cum suis indertijd, begin jaren 1980, uit winstbejag en ijdelheid het levensreddend AIDS-medicijn dat Mikovits had uitgevonden twee jaar lang hebben tegengehouden en aldus miljoenen doden hebben veroorzaakt? Uit dit interview kom ik er niet echt achter. En als ik dat lange bijna-2-uur-interview moet uitbekijkluisteren word ik gillend gek. Dat boek ga ik ook niet lezen, want ik heb nog wel meer boeken op stapel liggen en ik heb er nu wel genoeg energie in gestoken en ik ben geen specialist en ik krijg er inmiddels de schijt van.

Weten jullie wat? Jullie, lezers, mogen zelf uitmaken wat je er verder van vindt. Een charlatan en monster? Een doodgwone gek? Of, zoals anti-vaxxer Robert F. Kennedy Jr die het voorwoord schreef bij het boek van Mikovits meent: de Galileo van de 21ste eeuw.